No lobbyist will take a position without their clients approval, because THE CLIENT PAYS THE LOBBYISTS SALARY. In the world of .308 Win. Whats left after the hate which never leaves? is like a chicken voting for Colonel Sanders. What would I do if I was RRA and SAI? But do they double down on their error (Target) or put things into place that not only fix the error but make them new and better than ever. What gets me is there has been plenty of time and opportunity for damage control or to save face but they havent done anything to fix what theyve done. Dont own a Springfield anything and now never will. We can live without them much better than they can live with out us. Im a New Yorker. What opinion? Good grip, low muzzle flip/recoil, ambi controls, no mag safety and very easy to strip/reassemble. Gun owners have good memories, it will take a year but Springfield like Target will notice their mistake on their Revenue numbers and blame the weather, the president, insert excuse here. My 1911 search continues and Ill never purchase a Springfield. I only purchase products from them with free shipping because they rape you on shipping. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. Have you not been following this story? If you apply more than 9 make-ups in a year, you are in cosmetology businesses. Performance Tuned. However, the R-51 is a bear to clean and still hasnt proven itself totally for CC, coming off its well documented ill fated Gen 1 launch and Remingtons continued reliability issues. Customer service beyond any reproach. I know I wont be buying anything else from springfield armory. What flavor is it, and how much do you want? It is in between 5.56 and .223, but will safely shoot both. This is going to be really bad for RRA and Springfield. If discounted to $0, maybe. Weve even got a state-centric message board/forum promoting gun rights. Tennessee welcomed Beretta with open arms and the employment of a lot a lot of people in well-paying jobs. No offense intended. However, too many judges seem to rule on what they think should be fine, instead of the law. Not saying you have to like what happened, but its soviet Illinois, it was going to happen with or without their opposition. I have LOUDLY mentioned their treachery on the dozens of FB groups I belong to. Thankfully, many of the downstate Dems are staunchly pro-gun. Asit should. Now for 2022, the company ups the game for hunters with the introduction of the All-Terrain Hunter (ATH) , a mid-length rifle that stands tall in the field of AR-platform hunting rifles. Cant this fool see how much this is going to hes going to hurt his own pocketbook for this tiny edge? Rock River booth at the NRA convention, owner Chuck Larson has professed innocence in the matter. We there the courts kill the law or the governor vetoes it, nothing changes the sellout by Springfield. Wasnt sold on DAO until I shot it. theyre NOT trapped in Illinois,they can relocate,same as other gun companies have done. Go and ask them and Youtube/Periscope their responses. I hope that it will bankrupt them, for it appears to be the only way these gun companies will learned to to alienate their comsumers. Springfield Armory *deserves* to be pitchforked and torched. It will make my future purchases easier because two manufacturers are automatically removed from my search and consideration. Taurus? Its not difficult. Does anyone really buy RRAs BS, We didnt know? If workers still want a job, its a reasonable commute. Hislobbyist will continue to fight and protect dealers and gun owners? Sadly, some of the collar county Repubs arent so much. Springfields crime here is they didnt immediately counter the IFMA when the IFMA dropped opposition to a bill. THEY MUST PARISH AND EVERYONE WHO DOESNT BACK ME IM GONNA CURSE AT AND BE MEAN TO!!! Theyre sole purpose is to protect their own interests. He didnt say, Hey, we screwed up. Going the other direction nobody would move. Rock River Arms RRAGE Carbine LAR-15 with ATN Day/Night scope. September 30, 2010 By Greg Rodriguez. Not a smart move in a buyers market, or any really. in some cases they are just as passionate about their brands. Its enough of a turnaround that I forgive their earlier sins. They make a so-so M14 copy that can only stand up because Norinco cant export their el-cheapo copy here anymore. Especially ones outside Chiraq. Divide & conquer. Meanwhile, theres another, ahem, firearm blog, that refuses to address the SA/RRA issue. Im not selling it because of this cluster, but Im not buying from RRA again either. The XD and Saint are good guns, but they really arent all that different from a lot of other good guns on the market. The plant where that rifle is made revitalized the area n which it is made. This is income tax refund time. Its pretty much just SA and RRA (and maybe a few tiny shops, but those are pretty much the only two big gun makers in Illinois). F them. Magpul moved. Did SA forget that this isnt 1988 anymore and that the internet exists? Great comment, but I dont think it is enough. And to be fair, those are twice the price of the Ruger. Springfields CEO on the other hand, either through stupidity, hamhandedness or outright lying has seriously damaged his company. After his passing, a new leadership took over the company with many positive results. Thats kind of where Im at as well, REALLY pissed Im not going to be buying the Socom II Ive been saving for. Granted, the company isnt run by a Henry these days but I thought the paper trail of ownership was fairly clear and unbroken. Its a freakin disaster. Last Updated. And then maybe. This says a lot about the people running the company. Fuck Ruger as well. Never a single problem, thousands of rounds. Olympic Arms continued this legacy with its OA-93, OA-96 and OA-98 models. Tell us more about your experience in running a business. Colona, IL (May 2020) Rock River Arms, one of the industry leaders in AR-platform firearms, expands its line of defensive semi-autos with the introduction of the RRAGE 10.5-inch pistol. Kahr moved out of NY. Rock River Arms has a reputation for making high quality AR-15s, but they also have a reputation for being expensive. A whole lot of gun owners see the deal as a sell-out. The vocal retards who screamed about this conveniently ignored that last part. At the same time, Rock River Arms began to build AR-15 style rifles. Rock River Arms also produces M1911 pattern pistols, bolt-action rifles, and AR-15 style pistols in assorted calibers. [5] [6] When I found out that they hire Vets to assemble and test them, it was icing on the cake and I got one for low $400s. As an Illinois dealer, I will no longer stock, sell or support Rock River Arms or Springfield Armory products. Good for them, too. Out of stock Compare. In the end, the timing proved fortuitous to all involved. I had some AR parts on order a few days before Sands Hook. How did the unveiling of the new pistol go? Rock River Arms has built a reputation as a quality maker of modern sporting rifles and offers an extremely diverse list of models and options. I was going to buy the Saint, seemed like a.nice rifle, now.they can piss up a rope. How does a company respond to pernicious laws and an atmosphere which is detrimental to the People of the Gun? That should be true. If for no other reason than as a cautionary tale to other would be future sell outs. Bill is long gone and the last 15yrs of Ruger leadership have taken a much different stance. S&W was owned by a British company who were forced to sell their company for pennies on the dollar. Who the hell made this business decision and have they been fired yet? Huh? I just bought an EMP 3-inch. To address these issues, various proprietary chambers exist, such as the Wylde chamber (Rock River Arms)[14] or the ArmaLite chamber, which are designed to handle both 5.56 mm NATO and .223 Remington equally well. I live in Illinois. The vast majority of companies can do what they want to, but have have to insist that firearms companies fight for the 2nd EVEN WHEN ITS NOT IN THEIR COMPLETE SELF INTEREST TO DO SO. Ive bought 4 guns in the last year and a half since they opened their store. There is NOTHING I need from a company that is obviously manipulating the system for themselves. Regardless of who did what,the after-effects of this deal and a legislative loss will be felt far beyond Illinois for some time to come. Most dont buy a gun thinking about selling it down the road, bit it happens. If youre looking for a good, dependable AR at a reasonable price, I dont think you Thats rolling over and showing your belly while wagging your tail. An M1A was at the top of my wish list that I saving for. To be fair- since Bill Rugers death, the company has done a complete 180. Bonus was it was stainless frame and made in the USA. Maybe worst of all, passage gives anti-gunners a win they desperately needed. An American didnt screw all other American gun-owners. I had the EMP4 Contour and a TRP on my 2017 list. Find Senators and Representatives in close political battles last election and get their previously defeated opponents on board. RRA models, like the RRAGE, LAR15, BTB, ATH, LAR68 & Light Mountain, are available in many different color options and calibers. While it was a great pistol, the front strap checkering was just way too aggressive for bare hands. Their entire C Suite should resign and they need to prove themselves. If theres something worse than a fanboy, its a fanboy fudd. Advertise their treachery. It may not even pass the House. I put 3.5k rounds through it before a malfunction. As if they want to implode. Good for them. RRA and Springfield can suck my dong, they will never get a penny from me. (3) Rock River Arms LAR-15 Tactical CAR A4 223 Remington/5.56 NATO Carbine $ 684.99. Also check out the BM 59 kits and complete rifles out there. Was also saving up for an m1a. If IFMA had stood shoulder-to-shoulder with the NRA-ILA, the Illinois State Rifle Association, Guns Save Lifeand the National Shooting Sports Foundation working as a team to oppose this egregiousbill wed have had a good chance of depriving anti-gunners of a badly needed win. Now they will pay the price. WARNING: The products offered for sale on this website can expose you to chemicals which are known to the State ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Maybe they should look to Beretta. Sure enough, the bill passed theSenate by a single vote. I would say that Ruger has done more to support the 2A than all other companies combined. That being said, even if we do, Springfield is done as a company. AR-10-style rifles, the Rock River Arms LAR-8 stands alone. It weighs 10.2 pounds empty and is 43.5 inches long. Weve been busting our asses to support our friends and punish our enemies. Springfield isnt doing anything that the vast majority of companies do, protecting their bottom line. Looked at a custom SA 1911 before purchasing an STI. They see deep-blue Illinois as a great place toenact more of their gun control schemes. Well I will see if I can make a good trade for STI, Para, or a cz had a cz 85 combat one time and traded it, was a real good gun in a 9 mm.Things like this is realy bad just cant trust anyone anymore. Sure, the majority will be DOA, but blue and swing states will see this get passed using this an example of good gun control that even firearms companies support. Your opinion and yourre entitled to it and welcome to voice it here, though it seems you prefer that others not voice theirs if they disagree with you. Defending Your Legacy is obviously just a marketing slogan for Springfield. Be everywhere until the bill is toast. So, S and W are also dead to me. Had it in the cart at buds ready to buy tomorrow and now it definitely is not going to happen. I only want American Made firearms like Henry & Ruger. They did what they had to do to stay profitable just like companies in Kalifornia and NewYork and liberal bastions. (This is in response to Mark). Expect deep, deep discounts on that warehouse full of XD-Es and Saints they were hoping to sell this summer. Whats more, Larson seems genuinely appalled by what happened. Springfield can drop dead, Ill support gun manufacturers who support me. I have talked to people in person in TN that were overjoyed at having Beretta move there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Repeating_Arms#History. 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